DIY?

A space for people to submit and discuss ideas for our DIY introduction. For new and less new members and sitters to bring their own ideas and concerns to the table.

What brought you to DIY?
What brought you back?
What do you tell your friends DIY is all about when they ask what we do?
What do you tell yourself DIY is all about when you aren't sure why you do it?
What level of inclusiveness do you feel DIY should maintain to be the community you want to see?
What set of limitations do you feel it is fair or necessary to place on a "DIY Identity" for the same purpose as stated above?

Alan Watts

I very much enjoyed discovering this website.
I have quite an exhaustive library of audio CDs to trade. I am interested in meditation, metaphysics Alan Watts, Ken Wilber and many others.

aldoran@hotmail.com

-ps
Here are links to Alan Watts stuff:

http://www.alanwattspodcast.com/
http://donhodges.com/mp3/Watts/zen_stories/
http://64.27.15.184/parchive/

Prisoners

There are over 10 million people incarcerated worldwide. I am interested in mailing CDs to people who are confined and want to learn to use their minds. Your comments and info and links would be appreciated.

aldoran@hotmail.com

please enter this in your email subject line: rehabilitation

TaoWuWeiJay's picture

New to DIY ~

Peace and love to all. Well,.... I have been transferred transformed transcended to DIY Dharma from Wikipedia/Alan Watts/notes. What an amazing conglomeration of resources to find here. I am quite a novice to navigating blogs and forums as such. I have quite an exhaustive library of content to share (Alan Watts). But , I notice your upload limit within the PHP settings is 4MB per file. That is too bad maybe. I look forward to posting with like minded selves. Thank you for being here and for being.

Jay

Who is the I that knows it is I, now that I know that I know that it is I....

a little nervous, a lot nervous, a nervous lot

I haven't been back to the site for a little while and I find these wonderful posts from people who've discovered us and I'm suddenly feeling a little ... what did I say? Nervous? Maybe that's not the right word but my mind is all, like, "Wow. People discover this site or this idea and seem to like it/love it feel inspired" and then i compare that to how I see us and I'm like, "Wow. Will they be disappointed?" Activity on the site from we "members" always seems low to me (or rather to my judging, worried mind). aren't people looking for something more profound or amazing than a bunch of folks who want to sit and be together but really rarely seem to get anything more off the ground? it's been a while since we made a cushion, much less saved the old world. I donno. I guess it's me wishing we were more impressive somehow.
but you know we are pretty impressive, from my perspective. when I think about what I get out of this, I'm sort of amazed. because I've been sitting regularly for almost two years now! regularly meaning almost every week, but that's regularly, too. and I have felt supported and cared for and encouraged and nurtured for all these years, too. not in the "everything I ever needed" sense, but again, SOME. and some is better than what I had before.
JD brought up a question she got by email from another sitter from another little vancouver group, asking us how we were organized, how we worked with events and finances and all the such and such. I think we had a giggle (inner or outer) because, well, we're not, actually. "Organized"? Ask K how much work it took her to get ANYONE to show up for a business meeting last time! We seem to manage to get the door unlocked every week (make that twice a week now), and somehow, someone always gets the cushions out and someone rings the bell and someone leads our guided metta meditation. Group organization gets that far, anyway. Events? Well, day-long meditations happen when they happen, and usually they happen because someone wants to meditate for a couple hours at a time rather than just the one. But it's not exactly Change Your Mind Day in Central Park. And when it comes to events, ask JD how much has fallen onto her shoulders trying to get the Noah Levine documentary brought to town. And finances? Well, we actually don't have any. Or not many, anyway. Summer months have given us all the option of enjoying the fine sunny evenings rather than coming indoors to sit and practice, and as usual that brings down the numbers and thus the donations, and what money we had in dana's hat is dwindling. (to some of us that's welcomed with a "thank goodness").
I felt strange discussing those questions briefly last week, maybe because an old aquaintance was sitting with us and I was embarassed that DIY wasn't a Big Deal that I could hold up and say "Hey! Look what I've been doing!" But you know what, I'm afflicted with the apologize-y klesa uin my own life, so I guess it coming out on my attitude to my community isn't all surprising.
Because what we do do is sit together. and sit together. and we sit. and you know that's something wonderful. if I am longing for something to fulfil my ambitions to create a whole new world in my own image, or to overthrow all the hideous powers I seem to think are surrounding us, then DIY will probably never be IT. And thank goodness for that. But when it comes to a place where anyone and everyone who would like to practice silent meditation, discuss their experience and their problems with openness and genuine heart, and maybe take a look at a few other people who are just as neurotic and problematic as they are but still find a way to find some beauty to practice some wisdom and love together, then come on down!

humble's picture

heh

I caught Ajahn Sona's talk last night. About 200 people jammed into a room fit for only about 80 to hear him speak about his recent travels and interactions with the San Francisco Hindu and Theravaden community, and then with Louisville's contemplative Catholic community (home of Thomas Merton).

He spent a lot of time telling us about the numerous environmental initiatives that are underway and in some ways being led by the contemplative community (eg. Platinum LEEDS-certified monasteries built by Catholic nuns, etc.) During the question period someone asked the "I sometimes feel overwhelmed by all the problems, what can I do?" question.

His response, and I think it pertains to your musings, was "You can't do everything, but you can do something."

I think we're doing something...

;-)

<3 DIY DHARMA!

Fantastic! I'm new to the community... new as in registered about 5 minute ago. Up until now, I've been practicing yoga for 3-4 years and have started practicing meditation regularly on and off over the past year or two. I've had a love affair with audiodharma.org and Gil Fronsdal's dharma talks and guided meditation sessions. Being a 'geek', I'm all about finding new sites, blogs, resources, podcasts and social media resources to further my practice. Audiodharma and myyogaonline.org is what has mostly provided the basis for my home practice... that is until now!

I've been searching for a community to sit with for awhile and though I've attended a few events here and there, I haven't found a regular sitting group quite yet. Then, through some miraculous coincidence, I was looking up something on Jack Kornfield and somehow stumbled upon the DIY Dharma site. When I went to check out the events, I was ecstatic to see a 4 hour sitting happening right down the street from my house. Of course I found out hours too late, but the existence of such an event seemed to answer exactly what I was seeking.

Because I haven't sat yet or spent too much time on the site, I hardly feel compelled to do anything but give kudos to the designers / webmasters. Love the rad interface, wealth of streaming audio and social media applications/interactivity. All I can say for now is lookin' forward to sitting with you guys soon.

kind of tired

I'm actually kind of tired, and ready to go to bed really soon. But I got online tonight to look for something just like this, and I knew I'd find it through either Brad W. or Noah L. Catalysts, the two of them, for people like me (us, dare I say?).

I just moved to a new location, and I've been sitting on my own for months now. Thought I'd go and look for a zendo, more specifically a teacher. I found a website (duh!), and called up the sensei (who was schooled at the zen center i had come from), and was asked to read a particular zen book, write a letter describing myself, schedule an interview (and pay 55 bux! to attend), and then go through an orientation. I talked with my sensei on the phone tonight and i just got that feeling that a center with old-school peeps just won't cut it for me. So i decided to do it alone, until I thought about finding this place. Anyway, wanted to say hi. Thanks for being here. I'll check it out a little more when I get a chance.

flying_heart's picture

Who

Who is Brad W.? I know who Noah L. is but would like to check out the other Buddhist for 'us'.

humble's picture

Brad Warner

We've got a few things by him.

metta,

humble

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DIY Identity and Such

Went to my first DIY sit last night - sort of tumbled into a discussion on "sangha," which was good, :) and that led to a mention of a possible change in the identity or self-description of DIY.

For what it's worth, the description of "freaks, geeks, queers, rebels and outcasts" (I may have listed them out of order) is precisely why I came to DIY, and why I intend to keep coming back and be a part of... whatever it is. :D

I do understand that some folks might possibly be put off by the description, but at the same time I recall seeing something that said essentially that you "need not qualify" in order to join. That's good, that's inclusive, and that's important. However, I'm really hoping that DIY holds its ground as a sangha for "freaks, geeks, queers, rebels and outcasts" - there's any number of more "genteel" sanghas out there, if people aren't comfortable with freaks, etc., well, they should go where they won't find as many of them.

DIY feels - in my admittedly desperately limited experience of one sit - different, and I hope that that difference is recognized and held worthy of preserving.

Metta to all...

Quando dou pão aos pobres, chamam-me santo. Quando pergunto pelas causas da pobreza, chamam-me comunista. "When I give bread to the poor, they call me a saint. When I inquire into the causes of poverty, they call me a communist." - Dom Hélder Câmara

outsiders one and all

Wow, I'm so happy this discussion is becoming.
Funny enough, I relate to both sides (as if there are only two) of the question at hand. My first impression of "geeks, freaks, weirdos, etc" was, "But that's not me." I have no tattoos or piercings, no "out there" politics (well, not to me, anyway), don't like music too loud, and don't desire to change the world into a giant gardening commune, dance party, or free-love orgy. (well, don't desire that much, anyway). I have a pretty regular job, basically heterosexual habits, and I still like Christmas carols and believe in politeness as power. I'm kinda boring, in fact. If anyone had described DIY as a gaggle of punk-rockers, freaks, or queers getting together to meditate, I might never have tried it out. Instead my friend told me "there is a group of young people getting together to practice without a teacher or sectarian leaning"- something like that. And it happened to be in my neighborhood, and so I came.
But, like raksusa (sp?) said (and I can thank her for these words), I have been to a few groups and tried out a couple of schools and at this point in my life it just were not right. Then I arrived at DIY and it was! It is! For me! And I think that is as much to do with all of us feeling like outsiders than anything else. We've all probably had our fill of people and powers telling us "you must, you should, we know, you don't" and on and on. And so we seem to be trying to make a sangha where no one has the right or power to do so. you know?
And you know, when I really put my mind to it, I am a geek, and I am a freak, and I am definitely weird, and even pretty darned queer in my own boring way.
I do know this. To me it matters little whether our blurb is perfect, or our language exact. Whether we follow our own rules or anyone else's is not really the point for me. Like JD has put so eloquently, we are not about who we are, but about what we do, and what we do is practice meditation and kindness and wisdom in whatever way we can, and support each other in those things in whatever way we can. So long as that continues to be the heart of our little family, then call us whatever you want! Call us good, call us bad, call us late for lunch!
Just don't call us solid, separate, or unchanging.

Outsider!

It's good to hear your comments about this! I felt like an outsider in all dharma groups I practiced with . . . related to ego/identity, related to mind, related to "identity."
I've always fiddled with self-labeling the way some people play with their hair - idling listing my "defining" identity markers to calm myself. I'm a feminist, an anarchist, a buddhist, etc. (the list has morphed, of course, over the years).
So, what if the way I want to label my status (as outsider, ironically enough) triggers someone else to feel like an outsider? I can certainly appreciate the kinship of our two reactions. I suppose it's a "good" thing to highlight, how ego shapes our practice of egolessness. . .
Doesn't everyone feel like an outsider????

DIY Dharma

I don't want to see the current blurb on DIY disappear either. Sometimes, it's one of the things that helps me to keep going on this path. I don't really completely fit in anywhere with any group so to know that this group was started with self-defined outsiders in mind helps me to stick with some sort of practice - and that practice has been beneficial to me and the people around me.